DIY? Nah!

Well, we decided to skip the part of the DIY process of building a new room that both the husband and I hate "doing it yourselves". Taping, mudding, sanding, and painting. We have done those things several times in the past in other rooms and other houses and did not feel like repeating it in this house with additional small humans and way less time on our hands.

So, we started the search for someone to do our most hated DIY chore of finishing the walls and we found someone that I may have actually met at some point in my life even though I don't remember it. A friend from high school has a brother in construction and he had the best quote by far of the people that 1) called us back, 2) showed up, and 3) sent us a quote.

He'll be coming out next week to start on the walls. In addition to the walls we asked him to quote installing the cork flooring and again it was too good of a deal to pass up so we won't be taking on a flooring installation for the first time ever. We picked out the flooring and the paint and sadly, we ended up picking a neutral light tan that flows well with the colors in the rest of the house. I kind of wanted to step out a bit more and get some color in that room, but I'm a big color chicken who is now color shy due to the blue color selection in our master that I'm still not happy about. We are living with it because painting vaulted ceiling walls twice is no one's idea of a good time. Maybe in another 5 years we'll be ready to try again in there.

Anyway, we selected Wicker by Valspar from Lowes for the walls and Lisbon Cork Tobacco Road from Lumber Liquidators. We've replaced the carpet in 3 of our bedrooms with hardwood from LL and have been very happy with the quality of their products thus far and hopefully we feel the same with the cork flooring.

That's our news for now. We have the paint and will be picking up the flooring next week before he comes to start the work on the walls. I'll have more updates as changes occur without us having to do more than click the shutter button and write a check.

And then there was drywall - days 4, 5, 6, etc.

Well, I totally did not understand the amount of work left to do before we could drywall the rest of the walls around the windows and exterior door. There was a lot of very frustrating work getting the window reveals to be equal all the way around due to uneven walls, ceiling, and floor while the windows themselves were perfectly level and plumb. You don't even want to see the mess underneath the drywall in order to get everything straight and even. There were many, many days of trying to get it all correct and we finally reached the point where we could finish out the drywall on the walls.

Other than two little strips to go in the outside corner, it is done and ready for tape and mud. We've decided to hire someone to do this messy job because we've done it enough times before to know that we don't have the patience for the thin coats required to make everything look smooth and clean. We also both hate sanding drywall and all the mess that comes with it. It is well worth the money to have someone else do this job to get all the edges straight and clean and have the seams look seamless. Plus, all those corners around the windows won't have any trim to cover up any boo-boos that we might make. We're going to just install baseboards after the floors are installed. If we want to add trim later we can do that, but it currently isn't in the plans.

We'll continue on with the DIY on the painting and flooring after all the taping, mudding, and sanding is complete. We discovered during this weekend that if we leave the slider open to the kitchen it keeps this little room nice and warm without the need for an extra heater. I'm hoping that once the drywall is all seamed up and we have some soft cork boards on the floor it will hold the heat in even better. That means we won't need to install a small heater or floor heating at all. We'll still leave the slider installed so that we can open up that room during the summer months leaving the rest of the house free to run A/C if we want.

So, here is where we are on our list since we haven't visited it in a while.

• Tear out the existing screening, door, and framing
• Remove the ratty, green, plastic carpet
• Remove the siding that is inside the screened porch
• Frame out the new walls with 2x6 wood so we can pack in more insulation (plus the corner beam is a 6x6 so we thought it would be better to have the wall depth match and cover the beam)
• Install HUGE new windows (which will have a nice deep sill on the inside thanks to the 2x6 framing) and a new glass door that is bigger than the teeny tiny one we have now
• Install siding on the outside that matches our current siding (Although, we have discussed changing out all the siding for something with more interest. We're tired of beige and white houses. That is further in the future though.)
• Tear-out of the old plywood inside the room - nope, just going to drywall right over it
• Additional tear out of the ceiling "siding" and all the exterior trim that can be removed
• Run new outlets and wiring for the room since it was a screened porch and currently has one outdoor outlet
• Move the exterior light next to the slider outside to the deck - Um, yeah. The husband kind of gave away our old light so we'll be shopping for a new one
• Reinsulate the walls and ceiling - this will only be insulate the new walls because the original walls do have insulation
• Drywall - 98% done
• Taping, mudding, and sanding  of the drywall (slated for February)
• Paint - there have been suggestions for painting it purple (those are still being provided by the little ones), but I'm thinking we may end up boring and pick a white with a warm tint (although now I'm leaning towards the same taupe in the kitchen to keep things consistent).
• Install electric underfloor heating - decided to tie into the heat duct that runs up to our youngest daughter's room - Doesn't appear to be an option now and we have decided to skip adding any heating and possibly putting a small space heater or electric baseboard one in if we find that the room gets too cold for use in the winter. No heating needed!!
  
• Find some kind of flooring that we can agree with (husband wants tile, I want cork) - After researching over the winter and gaining more flooring knowledge we are agreeing on cork now and will be installing the flooring ourselves for the first time ever. Install cork flooring.
• Install a ceiling fan (already purchased and hardware and wiring are ready to go) to keep the room cool during the warm months if the sun is beating down or we want to open the windows.
• Figure out some kind of table and seating arrangement (banquette, benches, round table with chairs, etc.)
• Decorate

Screen Porch Remodel - Drywall Day 3

Since we both work full-time jobs, not a whole lot gets done on the weekdays so color me surprised to come home and find my husband hard at work measuring and cutting drywall. Once I got the kids settled in with Sesame Street for a little bit I was able to lend a hand between prepping dinner and cleaning up dishes. He got three pieces cut and hung around the slider which was his goal. Good job, hubby-poo!

Left side                    and                   right side

So, we are slowly progressing and hopefully my husband will be able to start on or even finish the header (seen in the left side photo above) over the windows and exterior door tomorrow evening.Then come the time consuming cuts with the outlets.

Screen Porch Remodel - Drywall Day 2

After getting the ceiling up yesterday we set our sights on getting a couple walls dry walled. One wall got done when the weather ended up being beautiful and perfect for lawn care and gardening. Plus, we got a visit from the lawn care/garden fairy also known as Grandpa. The gardens were looking sad. The first two are what the big garden looked like before weeding.

  

This is how it looked after quite a bit of work from my husband and his father.

 The raised beds got some love with weed removal as well.

All that outdoor work didn't stop the indoor though because one wall got drywall.

The next day will hopefully bring drywall to the slider door wall. Then begins the Tetris cut work around the windows and new outside door. Should be interesting to see how it all pieces together.

Screen Porch Remodel - Long Time, No Update

It has been a very long time since I updated this blog on the progress on the screen porch. There wasn't a whole lot of change other than some wiring, insulation, and exterior lighting and caulking.

Here's where we ended up after some work here and there over the fall, winter, and spring. The wiring was run outside for the new exterior light. We also beefed up the number of outlets in the room by running some under the new windows.

Then we added installed insulation and pumped Great Stuff into the areas where insulation wouldn't fit. The wiring box for the ceiling was upgraded to handle a fan and light. You can see in the photo below where the insulation was removed to hopefully tie into the HVAC line in the ceiling, but we couldn't find any vent pieces that would tie into that line with such a small clearance. We gave up and decided to just leave it alone.

 You can barely see the new outlets peeking out from behind the mess and insulation.

 More outlets under the windows.

It is definitely a mess in progress.

That brings us to yesterday where work began again since the biking season for Ohio Randos has slowed down a bit. Walls were measured, calculations were made, and drywall was purchased. It was a hot, muggy day, but that didn't slow down the dry-walling machine that is my husband. We even had some "help" from the little girls at times. The ceiling panels were all cut and mounted successfully. Dyrwall - Day One is Complete.

Let's look back at that to-do list shall we?

• Tear out the existing screening, door, and framing
• Remove the ratty, green, plastic carpet
• Remove the siding that is inside the screened porch
• Frame out the new walls with 2x6 wood so we can pack in more insulation (plus the corner beam is a 6x6 so we thought it would be better to have the wall depth match and cover the beam)
• Install HUGE new windows (which will have a nice deep sill on the inside thanks to the 2x6 framing) and a new glass door that is bigger than the teeny tiny one we have now
• Install siding on the outside that matches our current siding (Although, we have discussed changing out all the siding for something with more interest. We're tired of beige and white houses. That is further in the future though.)
• Tear-out of the old plywood inside the room - nope, just going to drywall right over it
• Additional tear out of the ceiling "siding" and all the exterior trim that can be removed
• Run new outlets and wiring for the room since it was a screened porch and currently has one outdoor outlet
• Move the exterior light next to the slider outside to the deck - Um, yeah. The husband kind of gave away our old light so we'll be shopping for a new one
• Reinsulate the walls and ceiling - this will only be insulate the new walls because the original walls do have insulation
• Drywall (in progress)
• Paint - there have been suggestions for painting it purple, but I'm thinking we may end up boring and pick a white with a warm tint.
• Install electric underfloor heating - decided to tie into the heat duct that runs up to our youngest daughter's room - Doesn't appear to be an option now and we have decided to skip adding any heating and possibly putting a small space heater or electric baseboard one in if we find that the room gets too cold for use in the winter.
• Find some kind of flooring that we can agree with (husband wants tile, I want cork) - After researching over the winter and gaining more flooring knowledge we are agreeing on cork now and will be installing the flooring ourselves for the first time ever.
• Install a ceiling fan to keep the room cool during the warm months since there isn't any HVAC ducting to it - we'll still install a fan to keep it comfortable when the windows are open
• Figure out some kind of table and seating arrangement (banquette, benches, round table with chairs, etc.)
• Decorate

Screen Porch Remodel - Day 6 and a couple hours

Day six was the day that the outside was to be finished. Well, it almost got there...

The siding was put up on the deck side and the tear out on the other side began and it was decided that they would run out of time to finish it that day. We used the light mount box that was on the inside of the screen porch on the outside for a future light purchase. Some of the siding is pretty dirty from being stored in our pole building and some of it is a slightly darker color from being sheltered from the sun inside the screen porch, but it should all match up after a good washing and some sun exposure. So, here is where it stood after a complete day six.

 Deck side complete. Check!

 J in his natural state or just trying to figure out if they can complete the other side before the end of the day.

Starting the tear out of the other side before deciding to call it a day.

The next day of work came and what they thought would be a few hours ended up only taking them an hour tops. Guess that work could have been finished on day six instead of day six plus a few hours. That's all right, we got to visit with Jon for a bit before he went home. Here is the outside complete in all it's windowed, doored, and sided glory.

 You can really see the color difference in the extra pieces here, but they should clean up and match nicely.

 Lots of little cuts to go between the windows and on the corner behind the drain.

Here is the side that only took an hour to complete.

Now we look into the interior, plus a few other plan adjustments. Let's revisit our to-do list, shall we?

• Tear out the existing screening, door, and framing
• Remove the ratty, green, plastic carpet
• Remove the siding that is inside the screened porch
• Frame out the new walls with 2x6 wood so we can pack in more insulation (plus the corner beam is a 6x6 so we thought it would be better to have the wall depth match and cover the beam)
• Install HUGE new windows (which will have a nice deep sill on the inside thanks to the 2x6 framing) and a new glass door that is bigger than the teeny tiny one we have now
• Install siding on the outside that matches our current siding (Although, we have discussed changing out all the siding for something with more interest. We're tired of beige and white houses. That is further in the future though.)
• Tear-out of the old plywood inside the room - nope, just going to drywall right over it
• Additional tear out of the ceiling "siding" and all the exterior trim that can be removed
• Run new outlets and wiring for the room since it was a screened porch and currently has one outdoor outlet
• Move the exterior light next to the slider outside to the deck - Um, yeah. The husband kind of gave away our old light so we'll be shopping for a new one
• Reinsulate the walls and ceiling - this will only be insulate the new walls because the original walls do have insulation
• Drywall
• Paint
• Install electric underfloor heating - decided to tie into the heat duct that runs up to our youngest daughter's room
• Find some kind of flooring that we can agree with (husband wants tile, I want cork)
• Install a ceiling fan to keep the room cool during the warm months since there isn't any HVAC ducting to it - we'll still install a fan to keep it comfortable when the windows are open
• Figure out some kind of table and seating arrangement (banquette, benches, round table with chairs, etc.)
• Decorate

Screen Porch Remodel - Day 5 Follow-up

So, there was a minor detail I forgot to mention about what happened on work day five. Word of caution to all the DIYers out there. Watch your bonus helpers. Watch them very, very carefully. For that matter, depending on who they are, you may not want to let them hold or use any tools.

Someone, we won't name names, thought the J channel would be better off attached to the window frame and not the Tyvek wrapped OSB. He was adamant that his way would work best despite repeated warnings and orders to put the hammer down. Here are the results.

That is a 1 inch hole in the side of the window.

So, we fixed it. More of that silver tape from the top of the window all the way down the side of the window frame. We got lucky. The glass didn't shatter, the frame wasn't damaged more, and we didn't have to replace the whole window which would have been very, very pricey. Lesson learned by all.